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2012 Alta Freeski Helmet Inside Jacket Kim Havell Rockette Rocky Point Salomon Sideways II Pant Smith Goggles bluebird powder
Kim Havell at Alta, Utah. (Photo: tommychandler/backcountry.com)

Friday Interview: Kim Havell

The preeminent female ski mountaineer of our time discusses recovering from the tragedies of last winter, breaking into the backcountry, and schussing on an erupting volcano

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2012 Alta Freeski Helmet Inside Jacket Kim Havell Rockette Rocky Point Salomon Sideways II Pant Smith Goggles bluebird powder
(Photo: tommychandler/backcountry.com)

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I first heard Kim Havell鈥檚 name back in 2007. I was skiing with some locals in Telluride, Colorado, where she lived at the time. As we rode up chair nine, I asked my ski partners, 鈥淲ho is the best lady skier on the mountain?鈥 They responded in unison: 鈥淗avell.鈥

Kim Havell. Kim Havell.

About that time, Havell was beginning to make a splash in the ski world. She was notching first female descents up and down Telluride鈥檚 infamous sidecountry zone Bear Creek, picking lines off Little Wasatch Ridge (the Grandfather Couloir, the Y Couloir, and Heaven Elevens). In doing so, she became one of only five people, and the only female, to ski all of the direct couloirs off Little Wasatch Ridge. Those feats in Southwest Colorado were stepping stones to a mountaineering career that鈥檚 seen her ski on all seven continents, with first descents on four, including Antarctica, where she moonlights as a guide for Doug Stoup鈥檚 Ice Axe expeditions.

She鈥檚 skied from the summit of Denali and laced turns down Aconcagua in Argentina, Tibet鈥檚 Shishapangma, and Pakistan鈥檚 Gasherbrum II, from the highest point for any female skier, after being turned around close to the summit due to dangerous avalanche conditions. With dozens of ski accomplishments spanning the globe under her belt, Havell has emerged as one of the preeminent female ski mountaineers of our time.

Unlike many of her peers, Havell didn鈥檛 grow up skiing in some snowcapped Mecca like Jackson Hole or Sun Valley. No ski patrol mom or ski coach dad. Instead, she was born in Iran and grew up in Hong Kong until she was 12, when she moved with her family to New York City. She ski raced in high school and as a student at Brown University. After college, she headed west to Telluride, where she coached ski racing, became an ambassador and ski model for the resort, and joined the San Miguel Search and Rescue. In the San Juans, her passion for the mountains flourished.

Six years ago, Salomon added Havell to their roster. Since then, she has appeared in films by Sweetgrass, Powderwhores, and Salomon Freeski TV. Shot last February in Sicily, her latest Salomon Freeski TV episode, 鈥淓tna,鈥 debuts in 2013. After 16 years in Telluride and a brief stint in Salt Lake City, Havell moved to Jackson Hole, Wyomong, in August to continue chasing her ski mountaineering dreams.

Here, she discusses recovering from the tragedies of winter 2011-12, breaking into the backcountry, and schussing on an erupting volcano.

What do you have on tap for this winter?
I have a few film projects, but I can鈥檛 go into specifics because we鈥檙e still trying to get funding. One is a women-oriented thing, but meant for all audiences. The other is a backcountry-type endeavor.

I鈥檓 going to be over in Europe this spring for some Salomon stuff, so I might try to ski some lines I鈥檝e been eyeing over there. I have some Himalayan hopes. Last year we had to cancel our expedition to Baffin Island because we lost two of our team members. (Editor’s note: The two expedition members were Steve Romeo and Chris Onufer, who died in an avalanche in Grand Teton National park on March 7, 2012.) We may try to resurrect that or do a trip somewhere else in May or June. And a trip to Antarctica in November 2013 as a guide for Ice Axe Expeditions. That鈥檚 the big picture stuff I鈥檓 trying to put together.

What was your take away from all of the tragedies in the ski community last winter?
Last winter was really overwhelming. I鈥檓 still working through it all. I lost five dear friends. I was so close to a couple of the incidences. It goes deep.

I don鈥檛 think it has changed my perception of risk. If anything, you study events and patterns and decisions that were made and the human factor. What we do is dangerous. There is a lot of calculation that goes into it, but there鈥檚 going to be times when, you know, if you miss some small wind event, or if you鈥檙e not really careful about certain decisions and you take on a little more risk on a certain day, things happen. It鈥檚 just a really harsh reminder of what can occur out there.

So, more than anything for me, it鈥檚 about humility. As time goes by, I鈥檓 becoming more and more humble about the mountains.

Did it make you reassess your outlook on skiing, life, risk?
I鈥檇 imagine I鈥檒l have more humility entering circumstances now and be even more on point and on my A game. Being conservative plays into that. And trying to pay attention, as always, to interpreting the snow, the person you鈥檙e with, and making the right choices for the right day.

What do you look for in backcountry partners?
Again, I think humility in the mountains. I think my best partners are the ones who are out there for the right reasons. People who are willing to turn around. People who are willing to communicate. People who are humble about going out. People who are doing it purely for their passion for doing it and there鈥檚 nothing else woven into a certain decision. You learn that very quickly about people. People who are fun. People who want to come back at the end of the day.

How do you determine if an expedition, outing, mission was successful?
For me, it鈥檚 knowing that I gave it my best, at the most basic level. I鈥檝e learned the hard way because there was a time when I was very attached鈥攁nd at times I still am鈥攖o the outcome. You want to get to the top. You want to succeed. You want to complete the objective. Especially if you go for, say, two months to the Himalaya, it can be hard to walk away 1,000 feet below the summit. But I鈥檝e had to do that now a couple of times and it鈥檚 painful, but at the same time, some of those decisions, I鈥檝e felt really good about, because there really was no other choice. You can either push it and have a small chance of doing something extraordinarily daring, exciting, and awesome. Or you go back with your life.

Can you talk about breaking into the backcountry? How does a novice break in?
To break into the bigger stuff, you do have to earn your keep. You have to earn respect. People have to be comfortable going with you. I even see myself now鈥擨 see a whole new crop of younger girls here in Jackson that I鈥檓 meeting and I have some hesitations about鈥擨 mean, I want to help them as much as I can, but I鈥檓 still a little nervous about taking them out into the backcountry. It鈥檚 a dangerous pursuit and it鈥檚 hard to be someone who鈥檚 going to help you pursue danger and take on a role model role in something that is not an exact science. Skiing is not an exact science and if you鈥檙e off with certain decisions, people go down.

You start getting people out in the backcountry and I mean how much of a teacher role do you take? From beginning to end? It鈥檚 like that doctor thing鈥攊f you鈥檙e going to respond to an emergency situation, you can鈥檛 leave the patient, that鈥檚 called abandonment. It鈥檚 sort of like that. But I believe in getting as many people out there as possible. It鈥檚 the most beautiful experience in the world, everyone should do it, but by the same token, it鈥檚 something that鈥檚 risky.

You mentioned that backcountry skiing is shifting. What do you think is prompting the shift?
I think there is a lot more information and it鈥檚 more accessible, which makes it easier for everybody to get out there鈥攎ale, female, whomever.

Where did you shoot your Salomon Freeski TV episode that鈥檚 coming out this winter?
Last February in Sicily, Italy, on Mt. Etna, the volcano. It started erupting while we were there. It used to not erupt a lot鈥攕omething like every six months鈥攂ut now it鈥檚 going off every two months or one month. It鈥檚 rumbling, that thing.

To ski on a Mediterranean island on a volcano and have the ocean right below you was amazing. The expanse of the volcano is massive. You can tour all over the place. There鈥檚 tons of potential, you just need a good weather window. The mountain lends itself to people who want to ski tour and explore, and then go down afterwards and have an espresso and hang out in beautiful seaside towns. It鈥檚 a really cool contrast.

What are some of the highlights of your career?
It鈥檚 so hard to pick one thing. I鈥檇 say a lot of the skiing we got done off the Wasatch Ridge (Telluride) was very rewarding to me. It was home turf and it was a lot of fun. It was in my backyard and they were really exciting couloirs. And beautiful climbs, and I really enjoyed getting to be a part of that movement after the original pioneers went through Bear Creek. It was really cool to get back in there with people and re-find it. That was about five years ago.

Skiing the Grand Teton and being able to lead all those pitches. That whole experience for me was a big turning point. I think the Himalayan adventures have been really exciting. The Karakoram.

The discovery thing鈥攇oing to Norway, going to Bolivia, going to Antarctica鈥攁ll of those trips had elements of true exploration. So it鈥檚 hard for me to fit things into a box and pick favorites. Some things told me that I was ready for the next adventure. I would say to myself, OK, you can handle this, so what鈥檚 next? Every expedition led with a turning point or a stepping stone to the next. So to name one thing is hard.

Best ski day ever?
My best ski day is pretty much one-upped every time I go out on a new mission. It will always probably be my last great experience. So, my last great skiing experience was on the Grand Teton in June with some of the greatest mountain athletes I know: Jimmy Chin, Renan Ozturk, Chris Davenport, Andrew McLean, Chris Figenshau, Brian Warren.

Most of us had skied it before and so it was a seamless outing and tremendously fun. It was one of those perfect days that feeds the beast. Besides that, I’d say skiing first descents in Antarctica in good conditions down to the ocean is one of the most mind-blowing visual and sensory experiences I have had. Big days in the San Juans are pretty extraordinary, too. But, again, every expedition and ski trip has its own special and meaningful place in my life journey.

Who are your mentors? Who inspires you?
I never had any mentors. There were folks along the way that showed me a thing or two, gave me tips, provided an opportunity, etc., but I never received consistent guidance from a Jedi Master. I had partners who were more experienced and I absorbed as much as I could in the field. It was a slow process of self-education to get out there and do the things I dreamed about. I spent a lot of time developing mountain sense and skills, finding the right partners, lining up appropriate objectives, and learning about risk versus reward.

There are people that provide inspiration. Glen Poulson in the Sierra. Andreas Fransson in Chamonix. Greg Collins in the Tetons. Doug Byerly in the San Juans. And, many more. Those gone … Alex Lowe, Andy Sawyer. Most of them are off the media radar. I find anyone with passion, talent or commitment, and lots of heart inspiring.

You lost five friends alone last winter. Given the risks, setbacks, defeat, why do you continue to do what you do?
Skiing is my greatest passion. 国产吃瓜黑料, challenge, skiing, climbing, and exploration fulfill me. It makes me feel alive. There is something innate that wants to see what is possible and that has just always been there and I think always will be.

Skiing is one of the greatest forms of self-expression and interaction with the mountains. I’m always learning, which I love. You share blissful moments with friends. I’ve learned to accept defeat and grow from it. Success in the mountains has helped define me as a person and as a woman. Human potential is extraordinary and should not go untested. The gains are immeasurable; the losses are a part of life. For me, life is not worth living unless you do it with soul. I want to give it everything I’ve got.

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