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Tough Love

My Friend Keeps Trying to Get Us Stranded in the Wilderness

He鈥檚 a big fan of survival shows, and I have a hunch he鈥檚 trying to recreate one on our trips

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Welcome to Tough Love. We鈥檙e answering your questions about dating, breakups, and everything in between. Our advice giver is Blair Braverman, dogsled racer and author of and . Have a question of your own? Write to us at聽toughlove@outsideinc.com.


I think my friend is trying to get stuck in the wilderness. This year we have started taking weekend backpacking trips together and have a nice time. Last time, we were hiking to the trailhead on Sunday and there were dark clouds gathering in the sky, but according to the weather report it wasn鈥檛 supposed to storm until afternoon. I thought we could make it easily but it seemed like he kept stalling along the way, and finally he said that we wouldn鈥檛 make it out in time and we should set up camp and wait out the weather. He seemed weirdly cheerful about it. I said that was unnecessary and sure enough we got to the car with plenty of time. It made me realize that he often suggests that kind of thing, like that we can鈥檛 keep going (on the way back), or that we鈥檒l have to wait out the weather. One time he said the trail was impassible, but we eventually got through. I鈥檒l admit I felt a little thrilled at the thought of staying out, too, but I quickly thought better of it. My friend loves survival shows and often says that he would do well on聽Alone.聽Am I off base for thinking that maybe he鈥檚 trying to make that happen in real life? To be clear, I don鈥檛 feel scared, but I do feel like on some level he is wanting us to get stuck out there. Is this dangerous? What is the best way to handle it?

I鈥檒l confess that I find your friend鈥檚 efforts a bit charming, even though鈥攍et me be very clear here鈥攊t is highly irresponsible to try to get trapped in the woods. Lost hikers don鈥檛 just put themselves in danger, but put rescuers at risk, too, and they can stretch already-thin search-and-rescue resources to the brink. If you鈥檙e in a more trafficked area, with designated campsites, then changing routes and camping in unplanned spots can seriously affect the natural environment. Stories about lost hikers are also apt to scare would-be outdoorspeople out of getting involved in their local nature scene, making the woods seem more ominous and unpredictable than they really are. These are all bad things! Also, it鈥檚 not cool and you just shouldn鈥檛 do it. There are better ways.

If you ever for a second get the vibe that your friend is sabotaging your trips鈥攊ntentionally losing the trail or misplacing the map, forgetting or damaging vital supplies, things like that鈥攖hen you should hightail it away from this guy and never go backpacking with him again. It doesn鈥檛 seem like that鈥檚 what鈥檚 happening now, but his actions聽could聽develop into something more insidious, so it鈥檚 worth keeping an eye out and staying aware.

However, it doesn鈥檛 really sound, from your examples, like your buddy is doing dangerous things. It sounds like he鈥檚 just hoping in his heart that he might have to sleep out an extra night, or wait out a rainstorm in a tent, in the same way that someone might fantasize about getting stuck at a dream vacation destination so that they don鈥檛 have to leave.

The thing is, the more advanced that someone鈥檚 backcountry travel is, the less of a line there is between getting stuck and not getting stuck鈥攂ecause the longer someone鈥檚 out there, the more they鈥檒l have to adapt their plans to changing conditions rather than sticking to an ironclad schedule that was planned in advance. For a weeklong trip, it wouldn鈥檛 be unusual to plan an extra day of buffer time, or even a few days, since you know you鈥檒l have unexpected challenges, detours, and rests. And for a longer trip, like a thru-hike or expedition, most schedules and dates can鈥檛 be pre-planned at all. You鈥檒l get there when you get there, and you鈥檒l cross what you have to cross. Even if it were possible to plan a precise schedule, it would be beside the point; the point is living along the way.

I wonder if your friend鈥檚 reluctance to reach the trailhead鈥攁nd your own thrill at the thought of staying out鈥攊s a sign that you鈥檙e craving, and emotionally ready for, longer trips, with all the fluidity that they entail. Is he up for four days? Five? Are you? If doubling or tripling your distances seems daunting, you could start by giving yourselves more days for the same length trip: set up a base camp, explore, and take day hikes en route, without the pressure of constantly moving (and hauling additional food and supplies a longer distance).

Another option鈥攊f your friend wants the excitement of feeling 鈥渟tuck鈥 out there鈥攊s to hire a boat to leave you on an island, with supplies, then have it come back again and pick you up a set time later. (Or go backpacking somewhere like Isle Royale national park, which is located on a remote island itself.) That鈥檚 definitely an advanced alternative, but with the right preparation, it can be a fun and responsible adventure. Heck, you could even offer to split up for a while to let your friend try out being “Alone.”

My hunch is that you don鈥檛 need to overthink your friend鈥檚 survival bent; it means you鈥檙e both ready for more adventures, and hey, you鈥檙e adults and you get to make that happen! You have a world of trips ahead of you, and a beloved companion who鈥檚 game. Travel farther. Be flexible. Plan unplanned time. You don鈥檛 need a storm to make you stay longer in the wilderness. You can stay because you want to, or because the sun is hitting a lake just right. You can stay because it feels like home.

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